Are there any born-again Christian brothers/sisters on B-F?

[polysemous1]

will some1 pls explain how God can still accept me when my choice is totally opposite to what he wants to happen*? pls help me.

*that God made adam & eve...not madame & ever or adam & steve

I guess I am not certain where your confusion lies. Why would you think that your "choice" to be a femme is opposite to what God wants to happen? The Bible, taken in context, doesn't say homosexuality is wrong. God delights when we are exactly who God created us to be. It is only when we deny or are saddened by who we are at our core that is upsetting to God. We can only choose to act or not to act. We can choose to delight with God or fight against God. We cannot "choose" to be who we are at our core.

[MastyrBoots]

tokarojn, welcome to the thread! Thank you so much for standing up. We certainly have no reason to hide. I'm not putting my light under a bushel!

i am a born again christian too...got saved way back 84...

but i discoverd my being a femme just 2 years ago...
now i am VERY confused...

i am very happy with my choice to be a femme...but i cant seem to reconcile the thought of God loving me as i am now...with my choice to be a femme...i havent been going to church for ages...

will some1 pls explain how God can still accept me when my choice is totally opposite to what he wants to happen*? pls help me.

*that God made adam & eve...not madame & ever or adam & steve

Pinklips, scripture says that ". . .while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." He died for me and for you waaaay before we were even born, but He knew us then. From the foundation of the earth, He knew us. He knows our whole life. No, we are not puppets on a string, but He knows the choices we will make. When Jesus Christ died on that cross He took all the sin of all the world of all time (past, present, and future) on Himself. He loved all of us then and He loves all of us now. Not all will accept Him as both Savior and Lord, but some will. If you do, then there is nothing for you to fear at all. God did not give us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind. Don't let Satan yank you around and try to put burdens on you that you are not suppose to bear. You just give all that to God and tell Him you need Him to handle it. He will. He will never fail His children.

Just as I am, without one plea, but that thy blood was shed for me, and that thou bidst me come to thee. Oh, Lamb of God, I come...I come.

[Jazzychik]

Born-Again Christian here! I know that in and of myself there was nothing I could do to live according to the example and teachings of Christ. I was stuck trying to get it right and feeling condemnation for messing up time and time again. The enemy just knew he had me right were he wanted me. I was at the point of giving up. I remember thinking and verbalizing that I would never go up to the alter to get saved again because I felt I had done it waaaay to many times for God to believe I was serious. I was afraid of pissing Him off and disappointing Him once again. I also had that whole reprobate mind thing ringing in my ears. LOL!!! But Praise God from the bottom of my heart.....my eyes were opened one day when I was reading John 1:1 (and so on cause then I couldn't put it down! *grins*). I was raised in the church and had read it a zillion times but this time the pages just opened up and the living Word stepped right out of that Bible into my heart. It took meaning for me right then and there and the realization of dying to self so that Christ (the Word that had been there from the very beginning) could live through me was revealed. I repented and gave my life to God, so that I could be born-again of the Spirit of God through the grace and blood of Jesus. It is His Spirit and His Strenth and His Power that enables me to live for God and His grace that covers and restores me when I fall. I love that God loves me, I am inadequate without Him.

Peace,
Jazzy

[pink2lips]

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have you ever been to an MCC or SCC church those or christian faith based gay churchs look them up in ur area if u find one call and speak tothe pastor u may find that it is a gay man or a lesbian but they can help u find the passages in the bible that show u how excepting GOD is of us and HOW much he loves us

im sorry if it is long and rambled lets blame it on the pain meds im taking i hope you find the answers u seek

and remember this the bible tells us ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED stand by that sister hold firm to ur beleifs and u shall see the fruit of the vine

have a blessed day
teddy

tnks for replying teddy... am encouraged by your words...
btw, am not located in the USA...am in the Philippines...a very conservative country that still looks down on the 3rd sex...much more the femmes... i will not get into what the society says abt femmes...it is so much worse than what they say about the butches... *sniffle*
pls tell me what those churches area again-whole names pls not the abbreviated versions *smiles*...they may have branches here or an affiliate church...i havent seen or heard of a christian based gay church here in our country...yet (hoping, hoping...)
dont get me wrong here...the church that i go to is accepting of butches & femmes...BUT i think they expect to see a change...to go straight...i havent actually spoken to our pastor yet...(am closet in most areas of my life)
you havent rambled...i need to hear everything that you said...
i know that God loves me...that i am saved...i just belive i am a "backslider" or one that has turned from the faith coz of the steps that i have taken...that is to be a femme...
again thank you so much for the encouraging words...
pinky...aka pink2lips

[pink2lips]

I guess I am not certain where your confusion lies. Why would you think that your "choice" to be a femme is opposite to what God wants to happen? The Bible, taken in context, doesn't say homosexuality is wrong. God delights when we are exactly who God created us to be. It is only when we deny or are saddened by who we are at our core that is upsetting to God. We can only choose to act or not to act. We can choose to delight with God or fight against God. We cannot "choose" to be who we are at our core.

thanks for the reply polysemous
...maybe i think that way coz of the society that i am in...the values that i grew up with ...i cant see anything abt God accepting me as i am right now...
...come to think of it...yeah, the bible doesnt actually say that homosexuality is wrong...but i cant help but think of the sodom & gomorrah...
am not going to debate on this...specially when i need the reassurance...
is God upset with me now? help me to delight in what i am now through God's eyes...i really cant see Him seeing me as i am now and accepting me...
thank you for your reply...it really got me thinking...still am...

[luvin61]

Pink,,Sodom and Gamorrah was fulla pride,theft,greed,selfishness,,idolitry,lust,,nothing was done out of love,,

[pink2lips]

[QUOTE=MastyrBoots]... I'm not putting my light under a bushel!
[QUOTE]
ey MastyrBoots...that line...its from a song from waaaay back in my grade school days...

this lil light of mine...i'm gonna let it shine...
hide it under a bushel -NO!...i'm gonna let it shine...
dont let satan blow it out...i'm gonna let it shine...

it has given me such a boost today...
am grinning like crazy....

such a simple truth...
yet such an impact on me...

thank you!

*hugs* *happy tears* *hugs*

[pink2lips]

Pink,,Sodom and Gamorrah was fulla pride,theft,greed,selfishness,,idolitry,lust,,nothing was done out of love,,

thanks luvin!
-that made me see that story form a different angle...
*smiles*

[luvin61]

thanks luvin!
-that made me see that story form a different angle...
*smiles*

your welcome,,the thing is to do all that you do in love,,that is what honors the Lord,,1 John 4:7-8

[pink2lips]

your welcome,,the thing is to do all that you do in love,,that is what honors the Lord,,1 John 4:7-8

again...thank you
*hugs*
today is really good...
i feel like a thorn has been taken out of my heart...
i feel relieved...
>--< *hugs*

[MastyrBoots]

*snip* ...maybe i think that way coz of the society that i am in...the values that i grew up with ...i cant see anything abt God accepting me as i am right now...
...come to think of it...yeah, the bible doesnt actually say that homosexuality is wrong...but i cant help but think of the sodom & gomorrah...
am not going to debate on this...specially when i need the reassurance...
is God upset with me now? help me to delight in what i am now through God's eyes...i really cant see Him seeing me as i am now and accepting me...
thank you for your reply...it really got me thinking...still am...

pink, I couldn't help but address this. For those who have accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, there is NO condemnation (Romans 8:1). God's children are never condemned. Jesus said that He didn't come into the world to condemn the world, but that the world, through Him, might be saved. When God is your Father, there isn't a better Father anywhere. How do you imagine a loving, perfect Father would look at His children? With love, pink!! We are children, we don't know everything. He teaches us. We are home-schooled!! He will lovingly work with you, teaching you, through-out your life. Just be a good student and desire to learn. He isn't expecting you to be perfect and never fail. He knows we are still stuck in this mortal body and are proned to failing in the flesh, but He will not let you fall out of the boat (just like He kept Noah safe in the ark). I promise you this: He will never fail you! You just turn your heart and eyes toward Him and try to do what He sets before you to do. Don't hide that light under a bushel. Let it shine, for others to see!

[MastyrBoots]

Born-Again Christian here! I know that in and of myself there was nothing I could do to live according to the example and teachings of Christ. I was stuck trying to get it right and feeling condemnation for messing up time and time again. The enemy just knew he had me right were he wanted me. I was at the point of giving up. I remember thinking and verbalizing that I would never go up to the alter to get saved again because I felt I had done it waaaay to many times for God to believe I was serious. I was afraid of pissing Him off and disappointing Him once again. I also had that whole reprobate mind thing ringing in my ears. LOL!!! But Praise God from the bottom of my heart.....my eyes were opened one day when I was reading John 1:1 (and so on cause then I couldn't put it down! *grins*). I was raised in the church and had read it a zillion times but this time the pages just opened up and the living Word stepped right out of that Bible into my heart. It took meaning for me right then and there and the realization of dying to self so that Christ (the Word that had been there from the very beginning) could live through me was revealed. I repented and gave my life to God, so that I could be born-again of the Spirit of God through the grace and blood of Jesus. It is His Spirit and His Strenth and His Power that enables me to live for God and His grace that covers and restores me when I fall. I love that God loves me, I am inadequate without Him.

Peace,
Jazzy

Jazzy, I couldn't have put that better myself! Welcome to the thread. I hope you'll continue to join in.

[pink2lips]

pink, I couldn't help but address this. For those who have accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, there is NO condemnation (Romans 8:1). God's children are never condemned. Jesus said that He didn't come into the world to condemn the world, but that the world, through Him, might be saved. When God is your Father, there isn't a better Father anywhere. How do you imagine a loving, perfect Father would look at His children? With love, pink!! We are children, we don't know everything. He teaches us. We are home-schooled!! He will lovingly work with you, teaching you, through-out your life. Just be a good student and desire to learn. He isn't expecting you to be perfect and never fail. He knows we are still stuck in this mortal body and are proned to failing in the flesh, but He will not let you fall out of the boat (just like He kept Noah safe in the ark). I promise you this: He will never fail you! You just turn your heart and eyes toward Him and try to do what He sets before you to do. Don't hide that light under a bushel. Let it shine, for others to see!

thank you mastyrBoots...old words that i havent heard in a looooong time... yes God is the perfect Father...and i am a work in progress...forgiven but not perfect...
you guys&gals have been such an encouragement...thanks!
*hugs*

[polysemous1]

but i cant help but think of the sodom & gomorrah...
am not going to debate on this

There is nothing to debate about the sodom and gomorrah story. When that story is referenced later in the Bible, it states that s and g were destroyed for hospitality reasons.

[MastyrBoots]

This isn't for debate, just clarification if desired.

Actually, what Jesus said about Sodom and Gomorrha (Matthew 10:14 &15) was this: "And whosoever shall not receive you (He was talking to His disciples as He was sending them out), nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment than for that city." The thing that is common here, between S&G and the places that do not receive the disciples is "not receiving messengers sent by God." When God sends messengers to you, whether they be humans or angels or simply God's Word, then don't refuse.......receive.

[noruega]

I'm a Born-Again Christian as well, and I'm so happy to have found this thread. I remember that when I came out to my mom a few years ago, the first thing she said to me that she was scared that I was going to go to Hell. Obviously not the greatest reaction. She instilled guilt in my heart, and I felt so depressed. After a while, she began to see that I was still the same sweet daughter she loved, and that I didn't change for the worst. Eventually she came to terms with it, and we talk about God all the time now. I did not choose this so-called "life-style", I was born like this, and like India.Arie says : "God didn't make mistakes on me". So now the guilt has faded away

~noruega

[MastyrBoots]

Noruega, it is a pleasure to meet you. Thanks for speaking up! I talk about the Lord with my Mother all the time, too. I'm glad you are not being torn up by the guilt anymore. It really is a sad way to live all the time, I know because I've certainly been there.

[noruega]

Noruega, it is a pleasure to meet you. Thanks for speaking up! I talk about the Lord with my Mother all the time, too. I'm glad you are not being torn up by the guilt anymore. It really is a sad way to live all the time, I know because I've certainly been there.

Thank you for welcoming me, Mastyrboots . It's nice to see a thread that isn't about the fluff topics, which are fun to read but do nothing for my spirit. It's funny because just yesterday, this so-called "born-again Christian" was telling me that he doesn't like to judge people (yeah right), but he feels homosexuality is totally against God. Turns out this man is divorced, so I politely reminded him that way back divorce was also "against God", and slavery was considered okay. I stated that times change, and maybe he shouldn't just choose to see what he wants to see, but look at the over-all picture. That shut him up real quick..lol.

[StormyKiggie]

There is a song called stand up tahat instantly came to mind when I saw this thread. The chorus basically goes "Stand up and be counted. Show that you know Him and you are not afraid". So I am standing up to be counted lol. I am moving forward in my faith instead of staying in a "crisis faith". I went to a local Baptist church (one of the biggest in my area) on Saturday for their Saturday Night Live service (its a dress down type thing) and the Pastor was using a story about a king that went to Jesus about his son dying and how his faith transformed from a crisis faith to a beleiving faith, then to a confirmed faith, then to contained, and then finally to a contagious faith. I can't for the life of me remember where the story is in the Bible but it was an interesting experience.

[MastyrBoots]

noruega, just remember that all of us are still blind in some areas. Right now we see through a glass darkly, but one day we will see face to face. I believe you rebuked him the right way......with love and truth. Folks believe what they believe, many times, simply because it is all they have heard and understood. Also, it just doesn't hit home for them because it isn't personal to them. Meaning, if they are not gay or their child or parent is not gay, then they have no reason to learn anything regarding that at all. Those of us who have struggled with it, DO know what it is like and we have most certainly exhausted ourselves in trying to find the answers (we've fallen before God, crying desperately for those answers). If someone asked me about famine, well I wouldn't really have a clue because I've never experienced one. See what I mean? So, as long as you do it the way you did it, with love, then that is all we can do to teach them. After that, it is up to them and God to open their eyes, ears, and hearts. None of us really know all the answers there, so we all just do the best we can. We seek God, one-on-one, and He answers those who diligently seek Him. One day we will know everything.

Stormy, welcome to the thread and thanks for being willing to stand up and be counted. Yes, we move from "faith to faith"--our faith is built up, one block upon another. We move from the simplest faith to the next step higher, then higher still, then higher still, etc. Sometimes God's children wander and stray, but Jesus said He would never leave us. So, above all things hold onto your faith in Him. He will never fail.

[MastyrBoots]

If anyone is in the Dallas area and looking for a Christ-centered, Bible-based Church, please come and visit us at New Hope Fellowship...website is easily found. This is a wonderful place full of people who love the Lord, love each other, and love those that enter to visit. Anyone visiting will know this very quickly. This is not a "gay" church, but the majority of people there are gay. There are straight folks, gay folks, transgendered folks, etc.....all with hearts full of love for the Lord and each other, as I said. No fluff sermons either! You get the meat of the Word and exceptional teaching on the applications of what is taught. In other words, they don't just talk the talk, but they walk the walk! We'd love to have anyone drop in and fellowship with us.

Anyone is welcome to PM if they want to know more about anything.

[femmeheart]

Hello Mastyr Boots!

Thank you for asking...the truth is, is that I'm doing great! You know how I was having the forgiveness issue?? Well..no more..*big smile* I have been working on that, as well as myself, in prayer and in the word, and I am finally free from those chains. Plus , it's pretty difficult to have an unforgiving spirit towards someone that you pity and feel sorry for. I have found that this difficulty has been the greatest blessing!! Funny how that can happen...*s* I have learned so much about myself and who I am, and who I want to be through this. And how I *truly* feel inside towards this person. When we're caught up in situations, we cannot always see clearly, as to what we do really feel or think. But now I SEE. And when that happened...I was fine...I was glad.
I believe that forgiveness , or anything for that matter...is truly only possible through the Lord. He is the inspector of hearts. I leave all things within His loving hands. Because I know, without a doubt, that He will take care of it...and He will take care of me.

Luke 6:27-28

"But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,
bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you."

Luke: 6:38

"Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your heart. For the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you."


~femm~

[luvin61]

I was sitting here thinking about my past few relationships,,and how important it is to find someone you can be equally yolked with,another born again believer,someone you can share your faith with,talk about things of God,,pray together,go to church together with,these are things that I have desired but havent had,,I mean man,,sometimes when I see Joel Osteen preach I wanna talk about the message,,,but you have to have someone who will discuss it and not put down your faith cause its not the same as theirs,,has anyone else had problems with being of people with different faiths? Do you feel un-equally yolked?

[tokarojn]

I was sitting here thinking about my past few relationships,,and how important it is to find someone you can be equally yolked with,another born again believer,someone you can share your faith with,talk about things of God,,pray together,go to church together with,these are things that I have desired but havent had,,I mean man,,sometimes when I see Joel Osteen preach I wanna talk about the message,,,but you have to have someone who will discuss it and not put down your faith cause its not the same as theirs,,has anyone else had problems with being of people with different faiths? Do you feel un-equally yolked?

Unequally yoked is about the best description I've heard so far concerning my last few relationships (20 year span). One was with an AA partner that acknowledged a higher power....definitely not the same as Christian. The next was with someone I met at an MCC church and was a good relationship until she started to go to an East Indian temple to meditate and learn to become vegetarian....the church attendance became nonexistant and eventually so did the relationship. The last one was with someone that would occasionally attend service (about 3x a year), that ended 3 1/2 years ago. At my age I don't hold any hopes of finding a Christian mate in my age bracket (even +/- 10 yrs of me), so I guess being alone is better than being in the wrong relationship.

~featthers

[luvin61]

Unequally yoked is about the best description I've heard so far concerning my last few relationships (20 year span). One was with an AA partner that acknowledged a higher power....definitely not the same as Christian. The next was with someone I met at an MCC church and was a good relationship until she started to go to an East Indian temple to meditate and learn to become vegetarian....the church attendance became nonexistant and eventually so did the relationship. The last one was with someone that would occasionally attend service (about 3x a year), that ended 3 1/2 years ago. At my age I don't hold any hopes of finding a Christian mate in my age bracket (even +/- 10 yrs of me), so I guess being alone is better than being in the wrong relationship.

~featthers

I agree,as you get older its hard to find someone who is compatible with your beliefs,,Ive had people tell me if I start going back to church it was over,,Im like,,thats part of who I am,,and they wanna take that away from me,,Ive been in a few un-equally yolked relationships and regret it,,it is better to be alone than to be with someone and be miserable,,and not being allowed to be who you are

[MastyrBoots]

femmeheart! Isn't God good? Isn't He amazing? He can make the blind to see! I've been blind about many things in my life and I'm sure I am still blind in areas, but when He opens my eyes, suddenly I can see! God performs miracles all the time, people are just too blind to see. In fact, He can even speak through the jaw bone of an ass! (I am proof!) Ha!

Luvin and tokarojn I do know what you mean about being unequally yoked. Oxen are often yoked together, because they are of the same mind. They are generally the same size and have about the same strength. They work well together and compliment each other. They don't get out of step with each other. Now, if you were to yoke an oxen with a horse things would get mighty rough! Or suppose you put a yoke on an oxen and an otter? What a circus! No thanks! I think I'd rather not be joined together with someone who thinks I'm from another planet.

I'm awfully lonely though! ~shrugs~ But God knows that.

[luvin61]

yea it is bro but it is also honoring God,,ya know..its the right thing

[MastyrBoots]

Is it just me or does it seem that most people, who proclaim to be Christians (believers in the Lord Jesus Christ), seem to go about their lives as if He isn't here? It seems as if He is just a play-pretty to many and they just pick Him up now and then and take a look or play a bit, then put Him back down. Or they wait until they get in some kind of trouble and then yell for Him.

[luvin61]

Brother,,there are alot of people that have the fat-baby syndrome..and also the convienece syndrome,,thing is,,true Christianity is a lifestyle,,a daily walk with the Lord,,not just when we need Him,,how many of us talk to Him everyday,,or even have a quite time,,a time of meditation,to just be quiet and to listen,,so we are stubborn,,imperfect,and have a free will,,its up to the individual what they do with the gift He has given us brother.
For those we see struggling or with the syndromes I mentioned,,all we can do is pray for them,and walk the path that we have before us with praise and thanksgiving

[SkittlesRfun]

Hi every1. Being a christian and being femme i too have my issues conserning my faith and who i am. However 4 me it is not sodom & Gomarrah that come to my mind. It is those 3 imfamous lil quotes that people always love to use on you too tell you its wrong to love who you love:
Leviticus 18:22
Judges 19:22
and ROmans 1:18-32.

And being a christian i do come across these scriptures when i read and at church. So how do you all deal with these scritures when u come across them in your lives by your self, at church or with other people?

And do they mean what people say they mean to you?

[MastyrBoots]

Skittles, I'm praying about it before I answer, but I will answer. Please give me just a bit of time, because the last thing I want to do is mislead in any way.

[StormyKiggie]

Is it just me or does it seem that most people, who proclaim to be Christians (believers in the Lord Jesus Christ), seem to go about their lives as if He isn't here? It seems as if He is just a play-pretty to many and they just pick Him up now and then and take a look or play a bit, then put Him back down. Or they wait until they get in some kind of trouble and then yell for Him.

The scary thing about your post is that I feel like for the past couple of years that is how I have been living. Not the pretty play thing part but only calling on Him when I reach some sort of problem. I have been trying to move past it on my own but its not working. The difficult thing I have been having is that I don't have a permant church home. I know that the building is not THE important part, its more the support network that I need. Its very hard because I love the experience and the message at my Aunt's church, but I know if they knew about me I would know longer be welcomed in that space. I also love the MCC here but I don't feel as welcome. Basically becuase of my own internalized fear of racism. I'm open to any suggestions that you all might have, because I'm running out of them myself.

Angela

[femmeheart]

femmeheart! Isn't God good? Isn't He amazing? He can make the blind to see! I've been blind about many things in my life and I'm sure I am still blind in areas, but when He opens my eyes, suddenly I can see! God performs miracles all the time, people are just too blind to see. In fact, He can even speak through the jaw bone of an ass! (I am proof!) Ha!

Luvin and tokarojn I do know what you mean about being unequally yoked. Oxen are often yoked together, because they are of the same mind. They are generally the same size and have about the same strength. They work well together and compliment each other. They don't get out of step with each other. Now, if you were to yoke an oxen with a horse things would get mighty rough! Or suppose you put a yoke on an oxen and an otter? What a circus! No thanks! I think I'd rather not be joined together with someone who thinks I'm from another planet.

I'm awfully lonely though! ~shrugs~ But God knows that.

*giggle*...You made me laugh, MastyrBoots. Yes, God is indeed amazing! I find that many times when I don't have understanding about why He allows some hardships to occur...that I eventually *always* SEE the reasoning behind it. He *always* reveals His purpose. Maybe in a few days, few weeks, few months, few years..or even at the end of our lives. But He has never left me in the dark, hurting...ever. I can honestly and joyfully say that. *s*

I also wanted to say that I wouldn't be with with a partner who wasn't a follower of Christ. My faith is how I look at the world....my values...my heart...and what is most important to me. And I want to be able to share that joy and faith with my partner. I believe that the Lord wouldn't lead me into a relationship with a non-believer. I know that when that has happened in the past, it's because of me, and my own will at work..not His. It can be quite difficult to find others who are Christians...God knows that's true. But, I believe that God will lead you to the right person, if you just consistently ask in prayer, be patient...and don't settle.

Jeremiah 39:17-18

"But I will deliver you in that day." says the Lord,
"and you shall not be given into the hand of the men
of whom you are afraid.
"For I will surely deliver you, and you shall not fall by
the sword; but your life shall be as a prize to you,
because you have put your trust in Me.." says the Lord."


May God bless & keep you all...
~+*femme*+~

[MastyrBoots]

Hi every1. Being a christian and being femme i too have my issues conserning my faith and who i am. However 4 me it is not sodom & Gomarrah that come to my mind. It is those 3 imfamous lil quotes that people always love to use on you too tell you its wrong to love who you love:
Leviticus 18:22
Judges 19:22
and ROmans 1:18-32.

And being a christian i do come across these scriptures when i read and at church. So how do you all deal with these scritures when u come across them in your lives by your self, at church or with other people?

And do they mean what people say they mean to you?

First of all, the new covenant took care of the old covenant. The old covenant was all about keeping the law. This is something we can't do (Romans 3:19-20). The new covenant is about grace (liberty) (Romans 3:31). I am free from the law (legalism), because Jesus Christ fulfilled the whole law on my behalf (Romans 3:21-28). I am under grace, not the law. I am justified by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ as my Savior and my Lord (Romans 4:1-8 and 13-25). These two things cannot be mixed. If you go by trying to keep "the law" then you are bound by the law and you are a debtor to do the "whole" law (Galatians 5:1-9).

So, of course we can't keep the whole law. If we could, then there would have been no need for Jesus to come and to die in our place. But, we are born in sin and, therefore, can't keep all of the law. Jesus was not born in sin and He is the perfect sacrifice for all of our sin.

Now, about Romans 1:18-32. This is about world apostasy. Verse 18 is about those who hold down the truth of God. Verses 19-20, is talking about God being revealed in nature itself, so that those who do not believe in God are without excuse. Verse 21 is about those who do not glorify God as God; they are unthankful; they are vain in their imaginations; they profess themselves to be wise, but they are fools; they change the glory of uncorruptible God into an image make like to corruptible man, and birds, and beasts, and creeping things. Does this sound like you????? And look at verse 25! Do you worship and serve the creature more than the Creator? And look at verse 28! Do you retain God in your knowledge or do you toss Him aside and shove Him out of your mind? Verses 29-31 lists every manner of sin! It is talking about those who ARE those sins. They are still under the law, not under grace. Look at the next chapter (2) verses 1 and 2. Those people who judge those listed in 1:29-31 are found guilty themselves, of the same things!

Skittles, you do what you feel in your own heart is right. No one can tell you. I certainly won't tell you. Each person stands before God. I stand before Him clothed in the righteousness of my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. There is no other acceptable sacrifice. Yet, He is all that is needed.

[MastyrBoots]

femme, it is a joy to hear you talk about the Lord! More. . .more!

[MastyrBoots]

Just out of curiosity are there any single Christian Stone Femmes on this website? If there are, they are surely hiding very well! ~smiles~

[tokarojn]

Just out of curiosity are there any single Christian Stone Femmes on this website? If there are, they are surely hiding very well! ~smiles~

Christian stone femme here.

~featthers

[MastyrBoots]

Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle! I didn't think there were any out there. Nice to meet you, featthers.

[tokarojn]

Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle! I didn't think there were any out there. Nice to meet you, featthers.

Nice to meet you sir. *they're always a thousand miles away*

~featthers

[femmeheart]

femme, it is a joy to hear you talk about the Lord! More. . .more!

You're such a sweetheart, MastyrBoots...thank you. I guess I just get fired up on this thread.

P.S: I am a Christian stone ultra femme...but not single.
But, best wishes to you on finding your lady, MastyrBoots.


~*femme*~